CPU get's Too Freakin' Hot

[*Nastyz00m*]

Hey guys..
As I stated in the subject..my CPU get's too hot.
Weird thing is..it only happens when I play quake..i.e. when my CPU has a lot of work to do.
So I changed/cleaned two fans..one of my videocard and I replaced my cpu fan for a casefan that blows directly on the heatsink. At first it worked fantastically, I could play Quake again. But last time I played my cpu (AMD Duron) was 74 degrees celsius..and my computer began to smell like something burning.\
I think it has to do with maybe the heatsink not properly connected to the cpu..or maybe I have to replace the coolingpaste..so I borrowed some paste..but now i need to remove the heatsink from the cpu. Now I looked all over the internet how to do that..it's a socket a thingy. Appearently I have to push something in order to flip the iron thingy from the socket using a screwdriver. But I'm so afraid to slip and then ruin my motherboard. Besides I couldn't get my screwdriver to hook behind anything if you know what I mean.
What the hell do I do now? It's been way too long ago since I last played Quake..help?
scaredyz00m

[*NastyJeff*]

Ahhh, heatsink replacement, FUN FUN FUN!
It most cases, I would say "REPLACE THE THING WITH A NEW ONE!" They are fairly inexpensive, and easy to do.
I will go over 2 things for you. One, the replacement or removal of a heatseak.
OK z00mer, question #1, does the little hole have a tab you can put the screwdriver on ( as everyone "seems" to recommend. ) As seen here:
www.omnicast.net/~tmcfadden/guides/Heatsink/heatsink2L.jpg
If it does, and not just a square hole ( they suck, I have slipped before in the past.. SLAM, right into the motherboard, YIKES.... all lived)
Anyway, "if" it has a wee little tab sticking out, get a nut driver my dear. One like these:
www.elexp.com/tools/nd1005.gif
I am SURE you MUST know someone who would have a little one, NOT THAT, sheesh....
Anyway. Put the little hole on the tab sticking out... see, it locks in there quite nicely. Now, "gently but firmly" ( like I haven't heard that one before.....) press "push" downward and inward towards the CPU, then gently tilt the nut driver till it comes of the tabs on the socket that hold it in place. If you have to force it, STOP, you will pop the tabs off, they are just plastic. Just more downward force is needed. It will come out.
If it just has the little square space for a screwdriver, that's what ya have to do then.
Ok, now for number 2. If the sucker is smelling, SOMETHING is wrong. If the heatsink fan is working, I can guarntee, the heatsink didn't slip or anything. Generally, this is due to a leaking Capacitor. They are the little cylinder looking thingys on a motherboard. Here are some pics of what they are and how they SHOULD NOT look like:
www.careyholzman.com/caps/gallery.htm
Hopefully, that's not it. Because if it is, lets just get a tombstone and give that pecker a proper burial. They should be flat on top, not crowned or rounded on the top in anyway. If it is, it's bad, broke, shot, poop.
Hope I didn't have too many typos, take care and good luck.
ps.. buy me a ticket, I'll come and fix it myself.
Jeff

[*Nastyz00m*]

Thanks for your support Jeffy. I didn't really get it though. But no sweat I found some video's on the amd technical pages so now I know how to remove the heatsink. Sadly enough I can't remove it yet. First I have to get some 'thermal pads' whatever that is in dutch. Ah well another weekend without Q3
See yaz later guys.

And wouldn't it be cool if I had the money to buy you a ticket to come repair it?

z00my-dreams-on-bout-big-bucks

[*NastyJeff*]

OK, simplified.....
Does your heatsink fan work? The little fan on top?
If so, I don't think it is your heatsink. I think you have another issue. Look at the cylinder type objects on your motherboard... they look like little cans. Is there any brown around them? Are the tops of them rounded, pushed up in anyway?
Heatsinks DO NOT move after they are attatched. If everything looks OK with the heatsink, you probably have a bigger issue....
Does that help?

[*NastyBlade*]

stand it in the freezer while you play Zoomy that will cooll the booger down

[*Nastyz00m*]

*NastyBlade* said:

stand it in the freezer while you play Zoomy that will cooll the booger down

LMAO I allready have my table fan blowin' in the open case

[*Nastyz00m*]

Jeff I have removed the little fan on top of the heatsink. Instead I have a 'casefan' blowin directly on the heatsink...a little space in between. It worked just fine for a whihle. The cans on my mobo as far as I can see them are allright, but I'll check them more thoroughly.

But please DO explain...I know heatsinks do not move by themselves...but it is ok to REmove them, put on some new thermalpad/thermal paste and put them back or isn't it?

[*NastyBabe*]

Zoomy this was the issue we had with our pc in january!
We smellt burning then the pc just blew! We got a new 2nd hand pc from a friend and his pc had the same problem it overheated and stopped working, so we removed the heatsink and put some paste on and now every thing works fine! I hope that works for u me lovely!

[*NastyBlade*]

ye babes right there zoomy I have done that in the past

[snowman]

If all else fails....I'll come sit on it for you to cool it down...

[*NastyBlade*]

but you will melt then that will short the booger out

[*NastyJeff*]

OK z00m, I try to explain.
Now, a Heatsink fan should be hooked up to your motherboard, to a litle pin thing that usually says "cpu" by it. This is essential, because as the cpu heats up, the fan speed increases to cool it off. By just having the case fan on it, if it gets too hot, the speed of the fan stays the same, so it keeps heating up.
Now, taking the heatsink out, easy. What I tried to explain before was that a nutdriver, has a hole on the end of it that works great for removing them. I could explain more, but maybe I will just have to walk you through it on the phone sometime.
Heatsinks are farely cheap, compared to replacing a burnt up computer. I would recomend replacing it, but we can pull that sucker and repaste it if you'd like.
Heres more reading for you:

duxcw.com/digest/Howto/mb/epox/8kha/2.htm

We talk more... hate for you to fry on us

[*Nastyz00m*]

Thanks Jeffy. I'll try it when I also have a thermal pad and a new heatsink fan in the house.

[*NastyJeff*]

If you are going to spend the money on a fan, for a few dollars more, get the package, heatsink and fan. I buy most of my stuff from here:

www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=493

But I am sure you can find something closer to you. At this site, they start at 6 dollars for both. I recommend a copper base, much more effective. If you don't get it, click link, you'll see, you smart

[*NastyJeff*]

I blame z00m!!!
Yesterday, my puter started acting funny, then today, floppy, and 2 of my cd drives took a poop.
It all started last night, I was lagging bad on my own server. The way I figure, my little box felt bad for yours, sympathy pains.
Ripped her down, ripped open the cd drives and floppy, refurbished them and trew it back together. All is well now.
Honestly, I think it was nicotine build-up.... but all at once! Too funny! NOT!

[*Nastyz00m*]

OMG! No jeff I think your puter really DID sympathise for mine..awe thats so cute! teehee! ..no i't's not funny.. bad z00m bad

(teehee)

[*NastyJeff*]

It's official, one of my burners is dead, damn damn damn..... glad I got another!

[*Nastyz00m*]

oh that DOES suck..was it a cd-rom burner? Luckily those things cost little to nothing these days. If it was a dvd-burner however...quit smoking!

[*NastyJeff*]

My first cd burner, weep, became attatched to it... NOT!
Hey z00m, tell me, as I was working on mine today, I thought of how yours must look as you play. Does this look familiar?



LMAO...HEHEHE....( not funny...)

[*Nastyz00m*]

:-*teehee..it IS funny...sort of

[*NastyGradeA*]

get a large coolermaster fan and control unit there are quite cheap, i overclock my P4 and it gets right hot, but turn up the fan when gaming...cool proc !!!

[*NastyJeff*]

Yeah, they ARE good. I suppose you noticed the size of mine in the pic. My Motherboard looks like a mini, it ain't.... heatsink is big.

[*NastyGradeA*]

here is a link to a very nice water cooleer
www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=RL-MUA-E8U1%20/%20EBU1&other_title=+RL-MUA-E8U1%20%2F%20EBU1+AQUAGATE%20Mini%20R80%20%2F%20R120

[*Nastyz00m*]

*NastyJeff* said:

Yeah, they ARE good. I suppose you noticed the size of mine in the pic. My Motherboard looks like a mini, it ain't.... heatsink is big.

AND your mobo looks so clean! You have no dust inside?

[*Nastyz00m*]

*NastyGradeA* said:

here is a link to a very nice water cooleer
www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=RL-MUA-E8U1%20/%20EBU1&other_title=+RL-MUA-E8U1%20%2F%20EBU1+AQUAGATE%20Mini%20R80%20%2F%20R120

That DOES look nice. I will check it out once I decide to upgrade my cpu to a 2600+. Thanks!